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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: LMS members armour guide Reply with quote

A lot of members are currently gearing up which is a great thing but make sure you keep on track with our time period - mid to late 14thC.
The best guide to armour styles is to look at the link James put up of English effigies, there is no better guide than this for anyone depicting a man-at-arms. Even for archers or sergants you can get an idea of the style to look for in leg harness etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. Also most members would of got a recommended 'kit' handout when they joined, a great place to start!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Agreed Reply with quote

A clear handout would be really good, with photo's if possible. I have been baning around like an old jalopy trying to get it right.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leigh, I gave you and Gav the handout months ago Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Yes Reply with quote

What you gave us was good but it is hard at times to place the names of items listed with the pictures. Both are detailed but not connected. That is there are no labels on the actual diagrams. Also when purchasing it takes as you know a bit of checking to get purchase the correct era item.

I just bought an awesome laser printer which can do really good quality photo reproductions. Thought I might start on taking some photos of various combos of dressed warriors so people can get an idea of the combo's possible.

I can do a colour copy for the equivalent of 5cents per sheet. It would be great for an updated pamphlet for arming, warbow and anything else we may wish to explain.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Len said James posted a link to 14th century effigies so maybe have a gander at that
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here it is http://www.gothiceye.com/

and remember people you can use the "search" feature at the top of the page to find pretty much anything you want on here
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Yes Reply with quote

The Southern Fox wrote:
it is hard at times to place the names of items listed with the pictures. Both are detailed but not connected. That is there are no labels on the actual diagrams.


do you mean a diagram like these?

http://www.beautifuliron.com/armour_diagrams.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and remember people you can use the "search" feature at the top of the page to find pretty much anything you want on here


It should be said that Damo has put A LOT of information up here from all sorts of websites so people may be able to find what they are looking for. If anyone has any quieries just ask one of the guys who know or can find out.

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Elissa Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Yes

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The Southern Fox wrote:
it is hard at times to place the names of items listed with the pictures. Both are detailed but not connected. That is there are no labels on the actual diagrams.


do you mean a diagram like these?

http://www.beautifuliron.com/armour_diagrams.htm


Sort of yes, labeled like that but none of those are from our period Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Yes Reply with quote

Yes Elissa that's more like it but as Morgan says, from the LMS era.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work Damo. While we're talking armour can I just say for those who are getting/have plate legs, try and avoid splint lowers. If you want splint lowers you should be looking at coat of plate or splint uppers. Plate greaves or demi greaves are fine with coat of plate, padded or splint uppers but never the other wat round.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work,
except the 3 paintings are all 15th c.
But the other a great.
I think we could most likely make a links and pictures tread to armour that is 1346 to 1376.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James wrote:

except the 3 paintings are all 15th c.
make a links and pictures tread to armour that is 1346 to 1376.
JAmes.

Thats a point, joined hose, voiders etc Embarassed dunno what i was thinking there?

and yes i agree 1346 to 1376 pics!!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*mutters*

The amount of people who show me a print out of that horrid pourpoint of Charles of Blois is staggering. It must get put under the noses of newbies and they are told 'go get one made'. When you explain that IF you were to make one, hand sewing while passing a needle shaft between pliars is costly...they look stunned and say 'l'll pay up to $100'.
Dream on.

For some nice eye candy (!), do a web search for Rustkammer (Staatliche Kunstsammlungen, Dresden). Some of my SCA and ALH members have just come back from there and took some truely wonderful photos. The joust displays/colors are brillant. Never has a slide night of some 2000 slides been so interesting.
While touring, Adolf took photos of engravings, effergies and paintings of ladies gowns and must of overstepped the boundries somewhere as she almost had her camera confiscated.
l'll try to scan some of the Kunstsammlugen photos to show you all (another day, too tired now).

Oh...and Morgan....have you replied to Kerry??????
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ones a coat armour the other civilian dress, I don't think either are an akerton or arming jaket but people use them as that, which is OK though.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: photos Reply with quote

With all this there is probably information overload for the those starting out so I am going to start working on some photos of a person wearing basic gear for archers to start with, with minimal variation. (trying to keep it simple). I'd do one for the combat eventually but I want to start at a low level.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bottom ones a jupon, top one is Doublet of Charles de Blois - sometimes called a pourpoint, but if it was intended to go under armour then it is more of an aketon. same as mine (except for buttons) and mine aint as tight
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, thats about what I said Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Memebers look here to see the handout.

http://mmcvideo.com.au/lmsforum/viewtopic.php?t=1012&sid=b54759ecaa527285c6a19e9299176050
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